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Pusha T Closes the Book on Kanye, ‘Outside of Music, We’re Nothing’


In a last word that felt more like a farewell than a feud, Pusha T put any nonmusical relationship with Kanye West to rest. In a remarkably frank conversation on the New York Times “Popcast,” the Clipse rapper put their current dynamic on full display. The message was as transparent as it gets: music was always their only bond.

”We ain’t the same,” Pusha responded without hesitation. “Without music, we ain’t shit. We can’t do anything beyond music.” He didn’t sound bitter; he was  factual, resolute, and principled. “His values, his morality, his mindset. We don’t see eye to eye. Hardly ever. And we never have.”

The weight of that statement is not just in the words but also in the history. Pusha and Kanye were once a once-in-a-lifetime creative partnership, releasing defining albums and eras of hip hop. But somehow, somewhere along the line, their values began to pull them in opposite directions.

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As Pusha went on, however, it became clear this wasn’t about musical tastes or personal animus but about integrity. “If you’re a man … you can’t move like this,” he said, referring to what he considers clout-chasing, attention-seeking, and hypocritical behavior. “Where you gotta flip-flop and kiss ass and do all the backbiting, begging.”

It’s not the first time Pusha has addressed the fallout. As for the relationship, well, he told GQ back in June 2025 that it was of no return. “He knows that I believe he’s not a man,” he confessed. He’s shown me his weak sides, and he knows how I feel about weak people.”

It’s also heavy stuff, but not just coming from one side. No Malice, Clipse’s other member and Pusha’s brother, also added to the breakout from the Popcast discussion. He painted Pusha as someone who stayed true to himself when those around him had not. “To me, he kind of reminds me of a, like a wolf out there that stands alone but stands on principles and ethics and the way he stands on business,” he continued a subtle shout-out to Pusha’s unyielding loyalty and moral compass.

Kanye, for his part, seems to be glancing backward a little wistfully. In May, he expressed uncharacteristic vulnerability on social media: “I miss me and Pusha’s friendship,” he wrote not long after being name-dropped on the Clipse song “Ace Trumpets.”

But for Pusha, the past never dies: no bad blood, no theatrical drama, just a line firmly drawn in the sand. As the saying goes, the music might still sound like the greatness they once forged together, but as for friendship?

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